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shrisha_18

Registered: 01/01/06
Posts: 50
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It is said that jupiter forms a maraka for libra ascendent but a classic called BhavarthRatnakara tells that even if jupiter is lord of 3rd and 6th houses he is a yogaprada " Truteeyashastanathopi gurur yogaprodo bhavet"

 

I am somehow unable to understand this point

 

Does he mean to say that since 3rd and 6th are Upachayas, he will do good

Of many cases I have seen personally jupiter plays havoc in his mahadasha for a libra lagna native I mean whatever bad effects of jupiter is mentioned in the classics they all fructify no matter even if jupiter is exalted

 

I welcome learned men's opinions

 

Regards

Shrisha


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mcsun

Registered: 08/23/05
Posts: 44
Reply with quote  #2 

Hi Shrisha,

The 3rd & 8th house are two houses that represent longevity.

Houses denoting death are 12th from the above stated houses - 2nd (12th from 3rd) & 7th (12th from 8th).

The Planets that control these houses (2nd & 7th) are classified as Maraka Planets.

 

Hence for Libra Ascendent, i don't think Jupiter is the Maraka Planet.
Instead it is Mars which is the Lord of 2nd & 7th.

 

mcsun

(Mr Curious)

shrisha_18

Registered: 01/01/06
Posts: 50
Reply with quote  #3 

Thank you for that

But I wanted to know in what sense does jupiter become a good doer instead of evil as said by Bhavartha Ratnakara .It tells that even though he is 3rd and 6th lord he gives yoga

thus jupiter is considered malefic for libra ascendents and how can he give yoga

Bus as per my analysis jupiter dasha does not fare well for libra ascendents even if he is exalted ,he gives health problems and obstructions


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mcsun

Registered: 08/23/05
Posts: 44
Reply with quote  #4 

Hi Shrisha,

In reference to your previous post - you asked:
"It tells that even though he is 3rd and 6th lord he gives yoga...jupiter is considered malefic for libra ascendents and how can he give yoga?"

For Libra Ascendent, if Jupiter (Lord of 3rd & 6th) is placed in the 10th house (Cancer Sign), then he is in his exaltation state as well as he produces one of the PANCHA MAHAPURUSHA YOGAS - Hamsa Yoga.

If he is together or in an angle with MOON, then another yoga called Gaja Kesari Yoga is produced. There are many other yogas which jupiter can produce in combination with other planets. Hence it can be concluded that Jupiter can still produce good yogas even though he rules the 3rd & 6th for Libra Ascendent.

In reference to your previous post - you mentioned:
"jupiter is considered malefic for libra ascendents....jupiter dasha does not fare well for libra ascendents even if he is exalted ,he gives health problems and obstructions"

The 3rd & 6th are classified as Upachaya Houses. However the 6th is also one of the 3 Dusthana Houses. The 3rd house in general represents one's Willpower, courage, siblings. The 6th house in general represents Health Problems, Debts, Enemies, Competitive Spirit, Hardwork.

My opinion is that the good yogas produced by jupiter would give mixed results; The individual would have to first face the difficulties & Challenges pertaining to the house Jupiter is located in. Through Willpower (3rd), hardwork(6th), Perserverance(6th), Jupiter will bless the individual with either some good fortune or great wisdom in the end.

 

The strength of Jupiter (Lord of 3rd & 6th) is also a determining factor to  whether one has the natural abilities to fight through difficulties & obstructions.

 

mcsun
(Mr Curious)

shrisha_18

Registered: 01/01/06
Posts: 50
Reply with quote  #5 

mcsun's analysis was wonderful with good insight Thanks for that

As you pointed right jupiter as a malefic cant be expected of good results immedietly ,some amount of struggle indicated eventhough he is exalted also

thats right and I agree with you on that

Best,

shrisha


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parank

Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 1
Reply with quote  #6 

Mine is tula lagna (with exalted Saturn)

3rd house - Rahu

9th house - Venus, Mercury, Kethu

10th house - Sun, Moon, Mars, Jupiter (none is combust).

 

While Saturn is creating Hamsa Yoga, Jupiter-Moon are creating Gaja Kesari Yoga. While jupiter mahadasa will never come in my life, however, in his antardasa, (Venus mahadasa and jupiter antardasa)  I have been tested on my patience, will power, hard work etc.  The end result was a 'fortune'.  I was posted abroad in a UN peace keeping operation in an African country - lived there in very harsh conditions.   While abroad, jupiter's anterdasa ended and Saturn's commenced and things started to improve fast.  The harsh sufferings were there, but the end result was a 'fortune' in the shape of lot of money to buy a house , a car and so on.  So, I clearly underwent a turbulent phase of my life like a roller coaster during the antardasas of jupiter and saturn (in mahadasa of venus).  Any further comments on the above horoscope planetary position are welcome.


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harjeetb

Registered: 11/03/05
Posts: 102
Reply with quote  #7 
Quote:
Originally Posted by parank

Mine is tula lagna (with exalted Saturn)

3rd house - Rahu

9th house - Venus, Mercury, Kethu

10th house - Sun, Moon, Mars, Jupiter (none is combust).

While Saturn is creating Hamsa Yoga, Jupiter-Moon are creating Gaja Kesari Yoga. While jupiter mahadasa will never come in my life, however, in his antardasa, (Venus mahadasa and jupiter antardasa) I have been tested on my patience, will power, hard work etc. The end result was a 'fortune'. I was posted abroad in a UN peace keeping operation in an African country - lived there in very harsh conditions. While abroad, jupiter's anterdasa ended and Saturn's commenced and things started to improve fast. The harsh sufferings were there, but the end result was a 'fortune' in the shape of lot of money to buy a house , a car and so on. So, I clearly underwent a turbulent phase of my life like a roller coaster during the antardasas of jupiter and saturn (in mahadasa of venus). Any further comments on the above horoscope planetary position are welcome.





saturn is creating sasa yoga while jupiter is creating hamsa yoga and gajkesri yoga.
regards
harjeet
vasan123

Registered: 04/03/06
Posts: 21
Reply with quote  #8 

I have came across one birth chart chart in which lagna is tula and moon in leo ,jupiter is retrograde and  is placed in the pisces. whether jupiter carries the malefice effect or benefic effect because jupiter holds 3rd and sixth house as per lagna and 5th and 8th house as per Rasi.

 

In the navamsa Jupiter is debilated and placed in aquaris. and lagna is tula in navamsa and rasi is virgo

 

whether native will progress in well in his carrer life during jupiter maha dasa or he will face sufferings ?

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by harjeetb
Quote:
Originally Posted by parank

Mine is tula lagna (with exalted Saturn)

3rd house - Rahu

9th house - Venus, Mercury, Kethu

10th house - Sun, Moon, Mars, Jupiter (none is combust).

While Saturn is creating Hamsa Yoga, Jupiter-Moon are creating Gaja Kesari Yoga. While jupiter mahadasa will never come in my life, however, in his antardasa, (Venus mahadasa and jupiter antardasa) I have been tested on my patience, will power, hard work etc. The end result was a 'fortune'. I was posted abroad in a UN peace keeping operation in an African country - lived there in very harsh conditions. While abroad, jupiter's anterdasa ended and Saturn's commenced and things started to improve fast. The harsh sufferings were there, but the end result was a 'fortune' in the shape of lot of money to buy a house , a car and so on. So, I clearly underwent a turbulent phase of my life like a roller coaster during the antardasas of jupiter and saturn (in mahadasa of venus). Any further comments on the above horoscope planetary position are welcome.





saturn is creating sasa yoga while jupiter is creating hamsa yoga and gajkesri yoga.
regards
harjeet
harjeetb

Registered: 11/03/05
Posts: 102
Reply with quote  #9 
hi,
if jupiter is in aquarius in navamsa, then its not debilitated.
regards
harejeet
vasan123

Registered: 04/03/06
Posts: 21
Reply with quote  #10 

sorry , in navamsa jupiter is placed in capricon.

 

vasan

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by harjeetb
hi,
if jupiter is in aquarius in navamsa, then its not debilitated.
regards
harejeet

harjeetb

Registered: 11/03/05
Posts: 102
Reply with quote  #11 
hi vasan,
as per my amateur views, for career D10 chart has to be looked into too. MD gives generalized results and the results vary as per the AD and the relation of the planets of MD and AD, their transits in the rasi, D9 and D10 charts.
there are lot of other factors taken into consideration.
experts might give u better opinion.
thanks/regards
harjeet
pavan

Registered: 12/16/07
Posts: 4
Reply with quote  #12 
hi,
 i am 24 male from bangalore. i am tula lagna and i have saturn and mars togrther in lagna. i  have jupiter  in the 3rd house. i consulted a vedic astrologer and he told me to wear a yellow sapphire ring. can anybody tell me if its good for me. i have a lot of depression and it is now less compared to my chilhood days. i feel some fear even when i talk to people. can u tell me why am going through such time.

Details
lagna - Libra (tula) having saturn and mars together.
2nd house - venus and ketu.
3rd house - jupiter, sun and mercury .
6th house - moon.
8th house - rahu

please advice me what should i do with the remedies.
thanking u in advance

suprabhata

Registered: 08/21/09
Posts: 8
Reply with quote  #13 
hi,
 i am 24 male from bangalore. i am tula lagna and i have saturn and mars togrther in lagna. i  have jupiter  in the 3rd house. i consulted a vedic astrologer and he told me to wear a yellow sapphire ring. can anybody tell me if its good for me. i have a lot of depression and it is now less compared to my chilhood days. i feel some fear even when i talk to people. can u tell me why am going through such time.

Details
lagna - Libra (tula) having saturn and mars together.
2nd house - venus and ketu.
3rd house - jupiter, sun and mercury .
6th house - moon.
8th house - rahu

please advice me what should i do with the remedies.
thanking u in advance

Hi
Tula Lagna is fortunate lagna, Moreover Saturan forming Sasa yoga is highly successul. Mars in Lagna makes you bold and courageous and tempts towards speculation and Jupiter is 3rd makes Vipareet Raja Yoga ( 3rd & 6th Lord in 3rd house), hence you will enjoy the blessing of the lord unexpectedly. you will be totally successful in all ur service oriented endeavor. 6th moon people are advised to avoid drinking Milk after sunset. 2nd Ketu denotes you have an ability of using your tongue or speech in very justifyable manner ( such law and legal matters).
As per one school of thought what I follow is Lagna, Panchama and Navama Lords gem stones. In your case Diamond, blue Saffire and Emerald Green in Right middle finger will certainly bring you prosperity.
Good Luck

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virendra

Registered: 08/04/09
Posts: 7
Reply with quote  #14 
Hi Pavan,

You have Saturn exalted in Ascendant and would be tremendously benefic. Saturn as part of its nature, would apply restrain/stress/delay in your routine activities and accomplishments. Hence the depression.
Sapphire was suggested to boost Jupiter providing optimism and courage here.
I'm too novice to comment about how much successful it would be.
An out of context but friendly advice : Investment in real estate would be fruitfull.

Best wishes

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